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If I knew then what I know now...

Last post 01 May 2008, 5:34 PM by harry. 27 replies.
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  •  28 Aug 2006, 9:33 AM 11

    If I knew then what I know now...

    Experience is simply the name we give our mistakes.  – Oscar Wilde

    If someone could have given you (or did give you) one piece of advice before becoming a homeowner… or if you could give someone that advice yourself (hint: you can)… what would it be?


    I was dreamin' when I wrote this, so forgive me if it goes astray...
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  •  20 Sep 2006, 11:04 AM 76 in reply to 11

    Re: If I knew then what I know now...

    BE TOUGHER ABOUT CREDITS AND FIXES!!!

    My wife and I bought from a FSBO person (I know I'm opening a can of real estate worms here, but ...) and we did the purchase agreement ourselves. We got a decent price (we loved the house and the seller refused to pay a commission if we used an agent) so we figured, "Let's all save some money!" Anyway, there weren't major problems but a lot of little ones. They basically got away with just installing a sump pump (and having the hose go out the wrong side of the house) but the garage doors and side window should have been replaced and a toilet was on the fritz and there was a joist that needed reinforcement. And as we speak, the SH*T TRUCK is at our house vacuuming out our grinder/ejector pit because the electric shorted out on the unit and it stopped working a few days ago (we didn't know because no electric = no alarm). Not sure if that's the previous owner's fault, but I'll throw it in there. The unit's electric box had crappy seals and a giant hole in the side. I almost got electrocuted last night trying to troubleshoot. So it probably should have been in a little better shape 1 1/2 years ago when we moved in. After flipping the circuit breaker, a bang, a shooting flame and a cloud of smoke, I threw in the towel and called the proper fecal authorities. Sick!

    My point is we should have legitimately gotten a few thousand in fixes and/or credits that we didn't get because we were starry-eyed first-timers. Which gets back to the math of "Does an agent make sense or not?" Would the fixes cost less than the commission paid to someone to negotiate them for you? Not sure. For us and the price house we were in, we probably still came out a little bit ahead. Next time, though ...

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  •  20 Sep 2006, 1:09 PM 82 in reply to 76

    Re: If I knew then what I know now...

    Everything costs $1,000. That's what I wish I knew.

    Quote for getting trees trimmed: $1,075

    Quote for interior painting: $1,000

    Quote to fix my fireplace: $1,000

    Deductible for my hail-damaged roof: $1,000 

    That could buy a lot of vodka.
     

     

     



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  •  21 Sep 2006, 3:33 PM 102 in reply to 82

    Re: If I knew then what I know now...

    1.  Every change/repair is going to take two to three times as long as estimated, cost 25% more (wouldn't you rather have it THIS way?) and be ten times as frustrating. 

     

    2.  Get three to five estimates. Pick the guy you like best and ask him to meet a price within the range you got and that you feel is reasonable. 

    Kasandra

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  •  21 Sep 2006, 3:38 PM 105 in reply to 11

    Re: If I knew then what I know now...

    I loved Kimbelina's reply, it made me laugh.  However she does have a point.  If you are a first-time buyer of a home there is a lot more to think about than, "can we afford the mortgage?"

    I read somewhere you should estimate an additional 45% in cost, and while I'm not sure that number is correct, there are a lot of costs to deal with.  I've tried to list some items you might want to think about.

    Homeowner's insurance, a lawn mower, weed cutter, rake or leaf blower, edger, maintenance and upkeep on your wood fence/deck/exterior of your home, window/roof/ and furnace repair/replacement.  If you choose to keep up your own yard, you will need several different kinds of cutters for flowers, bushes and tree limbs; lawn maintence products, or you can choose to hire someone.  If you choose to do this yourself you may possibly require a shed or somewhere to put all your items. 

    Moving inside you will need appliances if you don't have your own.  You may wish to paint or need to fix kitchen or bathroom drawers, toilets, sinks, showers and/or bathubs.  Hopefully your floors and ceilings are in good condition, but what about the electrical and plumbing?

    My intent with this is not to discourage but to be sure you have a realistic feel for what it may cost you.  Before purchasing a home use a realtor with a good rep that has been in the business a long time.  They can recommend someone who is in the business of inspecting the inside and outside of the home you are interested in.  It will save you thousands in the long run.

    Oh, and Kimberlina my preference is Tequila!  Wink  

  •  21 Sep 2006, 4:14 PM 106 in reply to 76

    Re: If I knew then what I know now...

    The one thing that would have saved you a lot of anguish or at the very minimum given you knowledge is to have hired a professional independent inspector to give you a rundown of the condition of the house.  If the seller would not have permitted it, then RUN!!!!!  With this report you then have a tool to negotiate with, could be about price, them paying closing costs, seller paying for a  home warranty, etc etc.

     Thats what a realtor does, its a business to them and they do not become emotionally involved like often times sellers & buyers do when they negotiate face to face.  And the buyers could have hired a realtor to walk them through the process for a much reduced price from an ordinary commission.

     With each of lifes experience we gain knowledge

  •  21 Sep 2006, 4:44 PM 108 in reply to 11

    Re: If I knew then what I know now...

    Here's the advice we got and followed.

    Get the house inspected every 5 years. You go to the doctor regularly and catch small problems before they get to be big expensive ones - why not the house?

    When you are ready to sell and move on, it is so much easier to get the house ready for market.

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  •  21 Sep 2006, 5:59 PM 114 in reply to 11

    Re: If I knew then what I know now...

    Great advice from all!

     My advice:

    Before settling on the initial offer, be sure that you look over everything carefully...Sure, you can negotiate after the inspection, but the "unwritten rule" is that you can't ask for things that you should have noticed on your own. As for Inspector--be sure the guy has carpentry experience. If you do find things in the inspection, get your own estimates and negotiate the $ amount the seller is willing to forego at closing.

     
    During the time between the initial acceptance and closing, make as few requests of the seller as possible. It's a thorny time and everyone is anxious and every comment/request is likely to be misinterpreted. Rely on your real estate agent to be the voice of reason of what to ask for and what to expect. 

    Don't buy a FSBO if you can help it...having a professional "middle (wo)man" reduces the stress level (in my opinion).

     
    Oh, and the golden rule, "Treat others as you would like to be treated," works well for buying, maintaining, and selling your home.

     

     

     

     

    Don't go with the lowest price inspector. They are worth it. pay for a *REAL* Inspector
     

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  •  23 Sep 2006, 4:17 PM 180 in reply to 11

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    Check the planning and zoning for your neighborhood.  I thought that I was puchasing a home in an old, well established Virginia neighborhood and didn't have to worry about new development.  Wrong!  If I had checked, I would have discovered that there were plans to construct a "planned" village which included single family homes, townhouses, apartments and retail stores just a few miles away.  My quiet neighborhood became the shortcut between the new village and the main throughway, bringing a lot of traffic to my road. I would also have found out that there were areas within my own development that the original builder didn't build on due to marine clay.  A new builder received approval to build on those sites.  (Which calls to mind....make sure your house isn't built on marine clay....your house could take an expensive trip when the ground shifts.)
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  •  26 Sep 2006, 10:39 AM 205 in reply to 76

    Re: If I knew then what I know now...

    your_pal_chris:
    BE TOUGHER ABOUT CREDITS AND FIXES!!!

    My point is we should have legitimately gotten a few thousand in fixes and/or credits that we didn't get because we were starry-eyed first-timers. Which gets back to the math of "Does an agent make sense or not?" Would the fixes cost less than the commission paid to someone to negotiate them for you? Not sure. For us and the price house we were in, we probably still came out a little bit ahead. Next time, though ...

    You didn't need a real estate agent, you only needed a good inspector.

     We also have been battling lots of repairs on a house we purchased in March - but, we had an agent and an inspector. The inspector didn't do a good job. The agent had nothing to do with it.

  •  26 Sep 2006, 11:09 PM 208 in reply to 11

    Re: If I knew then what I know now...

    What everybody has said is great advice.  What hasn't been said...

    There is nothing like the feeling of having your own nest to feather and snuggle into (can you tell I am getting ready for winter?).  It is a place that you can truly make your own.  I don't mind investing in my hobby, gardening, because it increases the beauty and value of my home.  My husband discovered a previously unknown talent for garden design and has spent many wonderful hours enjoying the yard (it's also cheaper and more rewarding than therapy!).

    We have remodeled and added touches that have made our home a delightful sanctuary for us.  We now work out of our home and enjoy the many improvements we have made every day.  It is also a joy to share special times with family and friends in our very own home.

    It is also an investment tax shelter. Even if the value doesn't rise as fast as it has in previous years, I have never seen home values go down (unless someone or something ruins the house through neglect or act of nature).  At the very least, you aren't throwing away rent money every month.

    I LOVE owning our own home.  I hope you will too!

  •  21 Nov 2006, 3:46 PM 344 in reply to 11

    Re: If I knew then what I know now...

    Here is my two cents, (wisdom that is costing me dearly). I wish someone had told me "don't buy a house with a swimming pool" and then tattooed the message on my forehead in case I forgot. It is a useless hole in which you must throw $100 bills into.
  •  22 Nov 2006, 9:54 AM 347 in reply to 344

    Re: If I knew then what I know now...

    What I wish I knew then....that primer is not an alternative to painting, but a necessary requirement...that what looks great in a magazine doesn't translate well to real life....always go a shade or two lighter when you're chosing paint...show your personality, not someone else's, it's your house, not theirs...always hire professionals to do a job, just because your friend Billy Joe Jim Bob knows how to use a screwdriver and drill doesn't mean he can do the job right...all major appliances and equipment will likely break in the same year. 
  •  03 Dec 2006, 11:10 PM 407 in reply to 11

    Re: If I knew then what I know now...

    You have little or no recourse. My state Mass. ( a blue state ) is the only state that makes it a criminal offense for a real estate salesperson to recommend a home inspector. Guess why??? YOU yes YOU should have hired a home inspector who is a full member of The American Society of Home Inspectors. He would have found and reported to you most of the problems that are now costing you.

    However, most, if not all of the problems that are costing you now were known by the seller. In my state you can bring suit against the seller and get 3 times the cost of their repair as compensatory and punitive damages if they knew or probably knew of the problems you encountered in your brief ownership. And why on earth would you even consider trusting a salesperson???  Fox guarding the hen house??

  •  05 Dec 2006, 11:28 PM 423 in reply to 11

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    My titbit (and forgive me if this was already mentioned) is DO NOT purchase American Home Sheild .... expecially from your realtor / agent.  They get commission and it's a BIG rip off.   Just put theis money in a high earning savings account annually (bi annually?) and use it if/when you need it.


    I would like to die peacefully in my sleep like my grandfather..... not screaming like the other passengers in his car.
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